Our brilliant guest Roger Burnley brought many questions to align with todays show. They are magical nudges to recognize and acknowledge yourself as the teacher you are. This conversation moves you gently along as Rogers singing does. Enjoy...
An episode full of laughter and endless up-lifting. As Rodger Burnley tells us of his thoughts that arose for him before the show you get a sense of how he moves his singing or coaching students to greatness. Enjoy...
Roger Burnley has been a vocal coach for more than 25 years. He has been featured on VH1, TV Guide Channel, TV One, and MTV. Some of his clients have been featured on “The Voice,” “American Idol,” “Saturday Night Live,” “General Hospital” and many other major programs. Burnley created the online singing training program, “Singing Made Simple,” which has been used by thousands of singers all over the world and has enabled them to develop into amazing vocalists. Burnley works with singers of all levels from complete beginners to seasoned professionals. His major focus is to have his clients maintain healthy voices and reach their fullest potential. Burnley began singing at the age of 12. He went on to develop a successful career as a singer and performer. Due to improper technique over the years, he developed vocal problems which led him on a quest to discover and then develop the best vocal techniques. He also produced the show “LA’s Finest” at the world famous Troubadour in Los Angeles, and helped new talent gain notoriety representatives from major record labels. He was the host and creator of “Everybody Sing With Roger Burnley,” on a Los Angeles cable network. Burnley truly believes anyone can learn to sing well with the correct training.
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Moving to oneness, Nourishing Curiosity, Embracing Differences, Becoming One
Meilin Ehlke 0:31
There is snow drizzling from the sky and the sun is shining. So this is going to be a very, very magical podcast show.
Roger Burnley 0:54
Oh, cool. Ha, ha, ha. I love that.
Meilin Ehlke 0:55
With Moving to Oneness, yes, I love this excitement. Everyone, if you're only listening you do need to look at the video for a second because the sun is playing with the trees,
Roger Burnley 1:08
Yes.
Meilin Ehlke 1:08
with nature, on my face, and it's really only half of the face. So this is gonna be really something interesting is going to come to light.
Roger Burnley 1:18
Yes, yes, yes.
Meilin Ehlke 1:18
During my beautiful conversation today I have with Roger Burnley and Roger is sitting in LA where he brings the morning sun. Where we bring together the energies of the day and evening, also the setting sun and him, the rising sun. Also, LA is at the ocean so we have a lot of... Uh, I can sense the waves of the water coming in bringing this new energy of change, and going in also communication with the land and going up a little bit of the mountains, wherever you are in California. And here again there is this interplay. So it's a very very very dynamic day, so this is gonna be a very very dynamic podcast. So again, Roger, welcome to the Moving To Oneness podcast.
Roger Burnley 2:15
Thank you so much. I'm honored to be here and I'll tell you when I knew what we were coming to do today, to talk about this Oneness I thought, uh, maybe it would be a good idea if I moved into that. And so whenever I have a thought about something and of course the synchronicity starts to show up. The events start to align themselves, and I'm coming to understand what all of that means. So, and I'll tell you this is so interesting, I was talking to my associates yesterday, and I mentioned that we were going to be doing this podcast today.
Meilin Ehlke 2:46
Yeah.
Roger Burnley 2:47
And so I said, I know it'll, it'll be what it's supposed to be, and then I said, I want to come up with the right messaging for the work that I do, for my program and for all of that and I said, we'll talk about it tomorrow. I always like to put things out there and then allow the universe to bring me the information or the clarity of whatever it is, because I know that it will come, it will show up.
Meilin Ehlke 3:12
Yes it will.
Roger Burnley 3:12
As I'm going to, this is so crazy and it's still, I'm still like recovering from it but anyway. I was going to bed last night and I sometimes will listen to videos or something to fall asleep and sometimes it's music. But last night I pick up my iPad, and there's a video sitting there, and it was with Oprah Winfrey and Oprah was interviewing, Caroline Myss. MYSS is how you spell her name. I think you will pronounce that MAISS, but she's, she's interviewing Caroline. Caroline is a medical intuitive, now.
Meilin Ehlke 3:46
And a very good one.
Roger Burnley 3:47
Yes, yes, yes. And I remember first being introduced to her. I don't know, 25 years ago, possibly or something, and watching her, and being so impressed, and then especially because of the things in my life physically that I've gone through that maybe pay a little more attention to this kind of information and so as I'm sitting there and I'm listening to her speak, and Oprah's doing the same thing. Now Oprah, she made mention of, I got to talk about this, because the dates are so crazy. She made mention of when she first met Caroline and I'm thinking it was in the 90s and I guess maybe that's when I first heard of her as well. And then as they were in this conversation, Oprah kept getting surprised by some of the information that Caroline was saying and she even acknowledged it. She goes, I think I may have read this before and I've been talking about this and I probably even maybe got it, maybe I got that from your book, I don't know, and she's going on. As I'm sitting there, whilst I'm listening to this, my body became so amazingly uncomfortable. I could not even stay in my body, because I knew what was happening, I was getting this recognition. I was having this recognition, which all came out in my writing this morning, and it's like you're still trying to answer that question, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" Because I'm sitting there listening to this information and I'm thinking, "Did I make this up? Or did I just steal it from Caroline? Is that what I did? Maybe that's what I did? How can I, why are we so aligned? Why am I hearing this now?
Meilin Ehlke 5:35
Beautiful question.
Roger Burnley 5:35
That's what I want to say. And it is going to oneness. Meilin, that's what it is, because it's the aspect of knowingness, which is exactly what Caroline said as well, that we are all moving into embracing right now. And that's the oneness that we're talking about.
Meilin Ehlke 5:56
This is beautiful to hear.
Roger Burnley 5:59
It was, so astonishing. And then when I got up this morning and I'll be quite honest I know that we all have these questions. We will, we have, we all have intuition, we all have that but we question it and we doubt it.
Meilin Ehlke 6:13
Yes we do.
Roger Burnley 6:14
Because first of all and this came out in my message this morning, we don't believe that we have been here a long time. We don't believe that we are these eternal beings. So how can we connect to information that was like ancient, for instance? How can we know that, but we do.
Meilin Ehlke 6:33
How can we know that? We do know, right? But because we were always told we don't know so other people could control us,
Roger Burnley 6:40
Yes.
Meilin Ehlke 6:40
and that has been around the world and for many, many generations.
Roger Burnley 6:45
There was, Meilin, there was another thing that came up in my message and they reminded me of this. When I do my talk to my guides is this information comes up and they said, sometimes you confuse your guides with your teachers.
Meilin Ehlke 6:58
Ha, ha, ha. Now this, I want to hear. This is going to be interesting.
Roger Burnley 7:05
Because we have guides. We have guides, and they are supposed to lead us to information, but we are the ones who our own teachers. We're taking new, we're taking the information that our guides are leading us to, and what we're supposed to do as humans, because that's why we decided to be born, is to take this information and add something new to it. That's how we evolve.
Meilin Ehlke 7:33
No words.
Roger Burnley 7:34
Yeah,
Meilin Ehlke 7:37
This is, this is really deep, and I love that you're speaking this out in this time, in this month and this is so important. This is now the time. Your show comes out right on the day... Today is the 17th of March.
Roger Burnley 7:57
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 7:58
We're meeting in European, German time at 17:17.
Roger Burnley 8:03
Oh. I love it.
Meilin Ehlke 8:05
Yeah, so it is, first of all a really important conversation we're having. But we knew this before. We met and we clicked in we knew we have to go for it. It's time for us to come together, to create together.
Roger Burnley 8:19
Yes!
Meilin Ehlke 8:19
But the times out there, at the moment, in March of 2021 is here for everyone to acknowledge, to recognize, to become aware of what kind of words you want to use, as it is to see that you are important. That whatever you say is needed.
Roger Burnley 8:42
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 8:42
Whatever you say in any second. And that we're here to nudge you forward. The energies are here to nudge you forward.
Roger Burnley 8:50
Yes.
Meilin Ehlke 8:51
Beings are here to nudge you forward. Over all in the cosmos and the material and non material world, to show the world who you are and why you're now here. And so, be not afraid and we'll talk so much more about how Roger will be enable you to do that as well.
Roger Burnley 9:13
That's exactly what they're... Wonderful that you said that because that's what came up in the last part of my message is morning, so of course that would make sense and say, Well, wait a minute I will help people if I decide to help myself and own this and move forward. And the point is and why we came together is because we all need this confirmation.
Meilin Ehlke 9:34
Yes.
Roger Burnley 9:35
We need and so when we find like minded individuals that when we hear information that causes this memory to emerge, it's like, "Oh yeah I kind of knew that from somewhere. Now what am I supposed to do with it"? The one thing that I really moved to recently, because it was my life. I did the same thing that Caroline said, which I keep saying to everyone, you have a life purpose because you're living it right now. It is what your life is, that's all it is. And so, I am fine, I am knowing that I'm being so drawn right now or moved or inspired to help everyone come to understand that, because our evolution is accelerated, when more people understand that they are part of this. I think that the best example of this, we will place these mentors, these big leaders in every one way above, who we are. Because we could not possibly embody all of that whatever it is that we believe they have. And I say, "No, wait a minute. I think that all of our leaders including Jesus and Buddha and an Allah, everybody. The message was all the same, you have what we all have". And we just are supposed to embrace that and again, turn it into something new. And that's what we're all doing now. And but now we're in this whole different area, arena, so to speak, where it's more collective, which means that we are coming together because there's more power, there's power in numbers. And so that's exactly what we're doing and we're moving into this much lighter place of our entire existence of our global existence, and it always looks crazy before we do that.
Meilin Ehlke 11:31
Yeah. Yes. So, at this time, that has been predicted for a long time so, 2020, 2021 2022, as it gets lighter, it's because it's gonna become less dense for us to move around to maneuver in the material world. Right?
Roger Burnley 11:54
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 11:54
And so yes, and there is this change, this transformation. I always say Roger right, we're creating new realities. And yes, it was very hard for many of us. I would say more our generation, maybe a few years down, maybe a decade but then it's changing, they don't have that as much, we have still look up people and put them on pedestals.
Roger Burnley 12:19
Yes.
Meilin Ehlke 12:19
And I can remember in a group when I was working with a shaman and he said, "Oh, everyone in this room is already at their best and can heal whatever in the world, that needs to be healed". It took years for the students to acknowledge it. I think, if I look back now that was 2009. And now I can see that few of them really got it or not got it but they say finally, "yes, that is so true, I am who I am, I have fantastic wisdom. I can act on it, implement it". And what is so important as we are, you know dissolving realities, that needs a little strength, force, energy, determination, focus, but also then to create something new out of it. And this new does not exist yet. So I say there is no one we can go to and say, "oh you", whoever we had put on pedestals before, "what are we supposed to do now"?
Roger Burnley 13:29
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 13:29
And it doesn't work this way. We really have to find that out. And that's why it's so beautiful, you pointed that out Roger, that we're coming together as a community. We're collaborating because it's a communal movement, there's not a single person doing this, we're doing this all together. This is the fun of it. We can nudge each other forward and embrace each other and make each other feel safe to unfold, explore, and experiment, to get those experiences through then teach.
Roger Burnley 14:07
Everything that's come through pretty consistently in my messages over the years and what I'm supposed to reiterate or bring back to the world, is that there's no hierarchy of souls, meaning we're our souls are all born equal. Now we may demonstrate them in different ways, as we're here, or choose to manifest that in different ways but we all have access to the same stuff. That's all it is. And then when I tried to get people to understand, that you have a specific evolutionary journey. Meaning that your soul has been here and it's moving through many different things and so it's not going to look like anybody else's journey. It's yours. It's unique and it's individual and that's the thing that we're always striving to own embody and to live out. And again if we've been in, you've brought this out so many times, when we've been taught that we can't do that, that we're not supposed to be those people and we grow up believing that for so long. We have to then keep knocking that down and opening up to who we're supposed to be which is, I decided that the rest of my life is that work, allowing people to open up and embody every aspect of who they are because it's brilliant. That's what I feel with every single person.
Meilin Ehlke 15:25
Hmm. This is beautiful we've spoke before and I remember that. Because everyone, he is the master of the voice, Roger. He has been quiet about it he has helped people develop the voice, to feel comfortable to bring out from deep within, what needs to be shared with the world. For them to shine, to loosen up, to change the environment with it. And it was so funny as you said, "Ah, ja, and now finally I changed my whole branding and my message to move everyone to Oneness. I made that decision". I was thinking, "Ah, ha. Haven't you been doing this all your life?" But you have really honed in on it and also saying it and I think this is the other thing, we all feel now very safe to say what we want to create.
Roger Burnley 16:27
Yeah.
Meilin Ehlke 16:27
What we desire to create. Where as, I think, before most of us have not felt comfortable with speaking those words out without feeling judgment. And because judgment is falling away. We don't feel as judged, and again, that is, it's easier to open up and to show more and wait and see what everyone is going to do when they say oh, they love it, I can open. Oh, they love it. You can open up more and more.
Roger Burnley 17:03
And then you know, I think too, we all have difficulties because we were influenced by our circumstances, as well. Where we were born, or even the particular race that we chose to be born this time, the sexuality we chose, and gender and all of that stuff. And if we think wait a minute, I chose all of this before I came. Let's just imagine that that was possible. And then, so then why did I do it? What was the reason? What did I want to accomplish? And so, when I use this idea I take people back to look at their lives, and I give them this crazy stuff because I want them to start to accept it. I said, "listen, you may have these issues about your parents but you chose them. So just think that, if you think you chose your parents, not ask why, because you're always going to find something within that relationship, within your upbringing that you have used to form who you are now, and who you are now is really brilliant. You just maybe haven't figured that out, but it is really brilliant".
Meilin Ehlke 18:11
Yeah, even if we rebelled against our parents.
Roger Burnley 18:14
Yeah.
Meilin Ehlke 18:14
So there was a reason, or was the reason to do as they did, was it to do the opposite, right? There is always a reason and luckily we have two parents, so we have two ways so we always learned right away to have two opinions and maybe a third one. I always in my family we had four bosses. My brother as well, since I am little. And yeah and so in what kind of environment. This forms, even if it was trauma. But when we look at it, why did we go into there? Was it safety, again maybe safety? Why did we stayed in there for a while, but then came the moment to say no longer no more. And what did you do in that moment?
Roger Burnley 18:21
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 18:52
When you said no longer? What was the input? What did you think? What did you decide, and what are you creating out of that now?
Roger Burnley 19:08
I also I went back and I have my people I work with, my clients I have them, go back and do these life reviews. Because we can find so many ideas about, who you are now, what you're supposed to do, when you look at a little bit of that stuff. And so I just started thinking about my family just the construction of my family. And so, when I do that, it's pretty easy for me to figure out how I formed up some of my beliefs in the ways to be, and some of the difficulties in the conflicts that I'd set up. First of all, I had one side of my family, my mother's side of the family, that was very religious, and very stoic. Just everything had to be done the right way and it was very, you know, and it was more important, but everyone else thought about how we were perceived and seen. So that was one side of the family. My father's side of the family didn't care about any of that. They just said, "you just go do whatever be free and do". And so I always would go back and forth between these two ideologies, so to speak. I would go, " Where do I fit i there? "And I thought, "Hm, okay, I think I'm supposed to find some balance between those two". And that', what I'm doing. And so I thought, "Okay, I can understand the restrictions that my one side of the family put on me, but I know that I'm here to move beyond those". So that's why I had the example of the other side of my family. And so I was given everything, and you start to figure that out at some point. And then, given those things and I can look at my life. So what am I supposed to do with it? So, I thought, "okay I'm supposed to help other people kinda figure that out". If I have sone that. That's what we're all doing. Everyone has something that they have lived, that is valuable, and that the world could benefit from, when they start to accept it and understand what it is.
Meilin Ehlke 20:59
Yeah. Life is beautiful. This planet is beautiful. You are beautiful. I'm beautiful. We all are beautiful beings so complex, so fascinating. We change every single second.
Roger Burnley 21:14
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 21:14
There's always growth.
Roger Burnley 21:18
You said something now...
Meilin Ehlke 21:17
We are beings that can move around.
Roger Burnley 21:22
You are so funny. You said something. I go yeah, we're changing. And also it was so funny. I just had this happen this morning, which is why I'm looking at this. I had my DNA test done a while ago.
Meilin Ehlke 21:34
Oh, I want to know more.
Roger Burnley 21:37
So I kept saying, I go and I thought, wow, this is really different, because I thought looking at me, maybe I was all from Africa, or something like that. And then I look at the results and I'm thinking, "Oh, wow. No I'm not. It's like I am 25% from all these other places. And then what happened when I had the one result, then today, I received an email saying, "Oh you have new results." Meaning that they found more stuff,
Meilin Ehlke 22:08
More connections.
Roger Burnley 22:09
more connections and in your event, so then your, your discovery, who you are starts changing, then. Now all of a suddenly today I'm 12% Scottish.
Meilin Ehlke 22:21
Very ancient. Now they have ancient wisdom, ancient tribes everyone.
Roger Burnley 22:26
Yes.
Meilin Ehlke 22:26
This is going to interesting. You carry, God, if you think about what you carry within you, Roger then. Whoo, and the bridging. And that brings me to a point. There was a really fascinating research. We can be more precise than DNA nowadays and when we find research or beings, humans beings I mean,
Roger Burnley 22:39
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 22:50
through the protein, I forgotten now what a protein blah blah blah. But we can see that our whole humanity was very movable. That we moved from the Southern hemisphere, up to the North. Anyway, you know, we were much faster, so not this slow dang, dang, dang... you know walking or maybe even running. In Europe people walked from Köln all the way to Africa, each single winter in 8 days. So, they didn't have to stay in the cold. So that means, people were able to move much faster. But also that we were mixed. We had Aborigines, up, North in Lapland, right? There was movement, and also people lived much more mixed than what we both got taught still in history class. I remember in New York when I lived there, and I was at the National History Museum and they had this show of this way of how people moved around. And I say, oh my god, we can dissolve this as well. This is happening now, and that just energies, but our history. The way what we've seen and what we've been listening to. And now it's time to believe in your ancient thoughts, in your dreams. Look at your ancestors. Look at where they come from, what they carry. Look at your parents, why are they in certain situations? Why were they in this way? What did they experience? What did their parents experience? Right? Or even off your partner, now, you can go and look, or of your friend,
Roger Burnley 24:23
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 24:23
or maybe even of your boss, and suddenly if you open it up to looking at more, you learn so much more, and you have a different understanding. And again we find similarities that we can connect to.
Roger Burnley 24:39
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 24:39
And I think that is so important that we see ourselves and each other much vaster, much greater. And all of us carrying this knowledge, if now, or long time before.
Roger Burnley 24:56
Oh, absolutely. I never cared about history before when I was younger. I didn't. I mean I studied it because I had to in school basically that's how it felt. But recently I started thinking, I think we're supposed to look at this a little bit more. I think we're supposed to know, I think we're supposed to add something else to this. And so I don't know a couple years ago I started watching all these documentaries, these historical things. I go, "Why am I doing this"? I didn't know what was going on. And then when the pandemic started, then I understood. Because I was being and I was being told, "You are just being prepared to understand what is going on". And just the other day I found something else I decided, people are going so crazy about talking about the vaccines and all of that and everybody has their own beliefs about what's going on. And I thought it's fascinating. I want to know what the history is of that. And so I found this one site, it was the University of Pennsylvania, I believe they know the research like neighbors wanting to make information freely available. And so I started seeing, looking, going back to China in 1000, and when the first inoculations or whatever they call them then. The discoveries that were made over all of the centuries, and every discovery that we made coming through something that caused us to need some healing, some big healing, like a pandemic or whatever might have been going on. We then evolve as individually, as humanity, as humankind. We evolved, each time. We can see it, if we look at it. We can look at the industrial revolution. We can look at every kind of revolution that happened, that always came after a craziness. That's how I looked at 2020 we all went through. We all thought 2020 was going to be the time where we could see everything 20 20 vision. Well it was. It was stuff had to be uncovered so we could heal. And that's all we're doing.
Meilin Ehlke 27:06
Yeah, now you know we move with more clarity, so the skies are more clear. Our perception is more clear. I think people are physically, their eyes are improving, we're becoming more aware and can recognize in see further into the distance, further into the sky. We can feel better because there is this width of... I sense it like this, there's this space that is being created, giving everyone the opportunity to find their own rhythm.
Roger Burnley 27:41
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 27:41
But not just, let's say, in society or here on the planet where we live, they have time for themselves, and also then it goes inward so each little cell can find its own rhythm, and that changes us.
Roger Burnley 27:58
Hmm. Exactly, and that's interesting you were saying that too. Because Caroline was talking about that a little bit last night, and saying that when we change as that we're connected to our ancestors and all that. And guess what we're changing that as well. We're changing what they went through, we are changing their experience. We're all that responsible. We all have that much ability and that much power, you know. And as Carolyn said, if we have one drop of this power within us, it's within all of us.
Meilin Ehlke 28:30
Yes.
Roger Burnley 28:31
And as you have brought out so brilliantly the oneness that we're all moving to. And that's really what it is.
Meilin Ehlke 28:38
We were not moving to, but yes in a way too,
Roger Burnley 28:41
I understand yes.
Meilin Ehlke 28:41
Where there is just a recognition that it is within us. We're seeing it. We're hearing it. We're feeling it. We're recognizing it within us. We recognize it in the world we live in and we see it in nature. We see it in animals. We see it enough, it comes now from all a direction and it's very important that we find it also amongst each other. Because it creates right away an extreme calmness, an extreme settlement.
Roger Burnley 29:14
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 29:15
When you recognize yourself in someone else.
Roger Burnley 29:19
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 29:20
Fear can disappear in [a snap] just like that. Comfort. Oh, as we were speaking at the beginning, opening up, and I would love for you to speak a little bit also today about the voice right in that moment when this happens to us. This [Chest] relaxes, right? Our whole body can go into this softness, into this gentleness. Also our counterpart we're speaking with or the group around us, or even if you're just alone some where in the woods or at the ocean. The tone that comes out of you is different, your whole muscles in the face, relax. So you can craft, for me I love crafting, each word is a way of crafting something new, of bringing you know manifestation through and materializing something, the moment you speak it out.
Roger Burnley 30:21
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 30:21
When we sing it out. When we scream it out. When we humm it out, even when we breathe it out.
Roger Burnley 30:27
Correct.
Meilin Ehlke 30:27
Or in. Because in the same moment. How do I breathe in then the vibration, the energy of your voice, the creations of your voice.
Roger Burnley 30:41
There was something that I had to become comfortable with and it kind of talks and speaks to this area, as you're coming up with and about the voice. I had, it's about the way we choose to own or express our voices and to own them as well. And certain times for whatever reason, there are certain parts of our voice if you're not willing to own and for me it was my angry voice. And because my angry voice would come up at times and I go, "oh, no this is too frightening for me. Why is this going on?" Until I had to come to the point, place where I had to interpret that in a different way. Number one, a lot of times I would get very angry when I would see things going on in the world that I disagreed with. That I thought were not just or fair and made me angry and caused all kinds of things. It just happened last night as a matter of fact. I saw something going on in the world that was just, I thought, l was horrible and my anger came up. But I started to understand that it needed to happen. I needed to see that thing occurring in my experience for me to become angry, so that I can embody who I am to be here, this time on this earth, and that as a person of love, and there is a person of giving and caring. And so sometimes when I get stuck. I have incidents that will cause me to become angry, so that I can start to work on something. Now, what I never address my anger and other people, it's usually typically at myself and I understand that. And the thing that I really got in touch with, and especially recently within the last couple of years, more specifically, is that I would become angry when I was withholding what I knew. That was what it was. I've been, "why aren't you helping? Why aren't you doing something". We all have that ability. And so that anger, I realized I was upset with me. You could do more. And then we all find these places of the potential that we all possess, but we don't want to own it. We don't want to believe it. This was the experience that I had last night listening to Caroline, because I'm feeling like, "wait a minute, you know this information she's saying it. How come she can sit there and say it so confidently and to own it and you can't?" Well because she's your guide and she's just showing you, that's all. Now you're supposed to do it. That's what we're all up to.
Meilin Ehlke 33:11
Yeah, this is so, there you know it, you see it. And ahhh. I know it I have been speaking about this. Why didn't I write it down yet. It doesn't need it. Right? The right person always speaks it out, we don't need to all do that. Some of us bring only that word, and you're one of them, to this planet for others to speak out. Because you are someone who brings a lot of energy. You bring a lot of newness that's something of your being. And so, this is also an anger. So then can we even say that? Here comes the other question. So, are you able to say, you know, I bring this here, I open up the energy, I open up the space, I open up the awareness for others to speak this? Uhhh, well that was only you, you were mentioning we give credit to the gurus for it or we may say yes Jesus can do it, but we all can do it.
Roger Burnley 34:09
Exactly.
Meilin Ehlke 34:09
Yeah, we all have different functions that's one of yours.
Roger Burnley 34:13
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 34:14
So you teach others to sing it and bring it out.
Roger Burnley 34:17
That's what I am. That's why I talk about it in this way because I'm completely transparent. And another thing that I heard, Caroline say last night because we think that because we reach a certain level, so to speak of awareness or openness or whatever, that's going to be it. That were done somehow we're never going to have a bad day, we're never going to be down on yourself, if we reach that level and that's never the case. We would stop to evolve if that were going on. And so, Oprah asked Caroline last night, "Are you always in this good place? You'll always understand and see everything.?" She goes, "No. She says you should look at my calendar. I write down good day, bad day, good day, bad day, that's all good". But again, that gives us all permission to accept these rhythms that we might move through. And these, you know, days allowing a little down today okay well let's explore that. Why
Meilin Ehlke 35:18
Because that's also good. Talking about sound and music and those days. A long time ago when I still lived in Atlanta, I listened to The Infinite Mind, it was a radio show, and I can remember, I was driving to the museum and I remember even where I was in that moment in Atlanta and who was with me, you know, this is how it is, when a memory is so precise. So he was speaking about Schumann, or German composer, they called it manic depressive. I don't call it that, I just think he was really a very creative person going through creating realities and de-creating realities. You cannot create a de-creative force. Like Gandalf if he de-creates he can't create. But the important part was, he had to have this super fun, vibrant days where he could jump above the criticism of the existing people, right, and there he could create. Before then later they would say, "what kind of stuff have you been creating? Your wacko". Not knowing 100 years later, people will just love his music over and over, and listen to it around the world, and then he would go in again and get in and go down but when you're down there you again get something out of yourself from deep within. And you, as you said so beautiful, we question in that phase. So there's more always a questioning phase.
Roger Burnley 36:02
It love that explanation. That helps so much. Thank you.
Meilin Ehlke 36:48
Yeah, and then there is this phase where we go and do. So this for me too, then you paint, you don't question, you go into the flow of concentration. The writers have that too. They always question how, when, why, blah blah blah but then they're creating. It is desert hard work, I'm not gonna say it is not. So then they, you work in it you you you immerse yourself into it and you feel it in your whole body especially if you can feel. And boom, and then it comes out. Then you can write all night long, maybe 2, 3, 4 or five days, or whatever your style is or maybe an hour and everything is written.
Roger Burnley 37:22
What speaking of the writing and this I still find this so amazing and fascinating to me, because I will write something in the mornings. I do it every day. I do automatic writing and channeling. Then I will read it that day pretty much well you know I understand it. It will all make sense. However, when I come back to it years later, it's like, "Who wrote that? Where does it come from? How did they know that kind of thing?' And so, again, it's just to kinda of reiterate this fact that we have information, that we know more than we do, that we think we do. And, as we allow ourselves to believe that, to open up to more information starts coming, it just grows and grows and that's it. That's what intuition. That's how intuition develops them we start giving it permission to be there to know that we have it and can accept it.
Meilin Ehlke 38:15
Yeah, you said something last time we converse. You said your work also with voice what you did before our, maybe the whole phase of your life is what honed over and over your intuition.
Roger Burnley 38:27
Oh, yes.
Meilin Ehlke 38:27
Who made you more aware of who you are. Share a little bit about that maybe someone who's going to listen, is going to recognize himself in that and see it is okay, I'm doing what I'm doing now is right. It shows phases of myself, that are natural within me and that I'm starting to recognize and also then use them. Because we're moving now in the time of using. We have done thinking everyone, is now time to use. So, Roger, please share a little bit about this.
Roger Burnley 39:35
Okay, you gave me a whole different way of talking about this and so much of it was starting to come up yesterday as well so. I tell people I didn't even go into my vocal coaching work until I was into my mid 30's. Now most people would think that they would find their career, their lives and all that beforehand. I had done so many other things that were not, you know, fulfilling but I earned money, and they kind of worked. Anyway. But when I was a kid at 12, I didn't know that I could sing or wanting to sing. I had no desire, but someone said, "oh you could sing" So in school is when they started putting me in choirs, it felt like that to me, they started putting me in choirs. But I was incredibly insecure, always. And then in high school I had one teacher, going into high school, one choir director and saw some potential. I didn't, he did, and kept pushing me. I doubted it the entire time and when I went to college, I was not going to go into music or anything. I was doing accounting. I had to do something like my parents did. Let me do that, that's what I'm supposed to do. And so later in my life I thought, wait a minute this singing thing is still there, but I just did it for fun. I just thought maybe I'll go and take some lessons. I'll work with some coaches or whatever. And then one time later, I said, "no I think I'm supposed to do more with this?" I didn't know why, because I was terrified. And I wanted to get through the terror of doing this and I wanted to keep getting better and so it was the thing that I use to kind of develop me, was using my voice to become more comfortable with myself, and I didn't even want to coach someone else. Again I had to be pushed all the time. I'm saying this because hopefully people will see that just because you need help, and coaching, doesn't make you weak. It means it makes you really smart, most of the time. And so, my coach and in 1988 he says, "you need to start coaching." And I go, "I'm terrible. I can't do that. I would never". And he says, "no you must do that", and I said okay. And so then it turned into this career from something that to me felt like this burden, and that it wasn't something I good at to begin with, and then it turns into this career because I was determined to use it as my way of developing. But then when I worked with all of these people, the magic thing that came out of that was I started understanding humans a lot better. I started understanding how we all withhold that voice as you said. We don't own it, what it is, it's an internal thing, it's a physical expression, it's all of those things, but we are not owning them because we haven't been owning us.
Meilin Ehlke 42:31
Everyone listen, this is beautiful, owning us. When I was listening the thought came, but you also were and still are very observant, so you look at people.
Roger Burnley 42:34
Yes.
Meilin Ehlke 42:35
So because of you seeing what people are and in a way it was so beautiful you always had people around you that saw what you are.
Roger Burnley 43:02
Right.
Meilin Ehlke 43:03
And nudged you forward and believed in you.
Roger Burnley 43:07
Yes.
Meilin Ehlke 43:08
So you're very, very lucky. But it is also something that you understood, and you were able now to turn that around and use what this beautiful experience that you had, by being seen. And you saw all the others. And then you see and then let them bring out a voice, so you do have many different talents. So it goes back to the truth and love that you have.
Roger Burnley 43:37
Right. It's so funny because I look back now and I think, "why didn't I know this before? Why didn't I know this earlier?" That's what, that's what we do. I remember when I first started, when I first started coaching on both, vocal coaching first, and then I was so excited about it because all I cared about were the results. I just wanted to see people expand and own something about them, whatever it might have been. And then I noticed that it went beyond that. I knew on a deep level, that this was going to help change the world. I didn't know why. Because I would have this response when I would coach, a kid, I had some young kids I was coaching, and then their parents would watch this, and they would become so excited. And then I saw, "Oh, this is a generational thing. So if we can impress things ability into the kids, they start to do it and pass it forward". Yes, that's what we're all doing. I thought, ah, that's it. So it told me where it was supposed to be.
Meilin Ehlke 44:55
Wow, you know this is so beautiful because you also showed parents, a different way to respond to their children, and also to see their children in a different light.
Roger Burnley 45:09
Oh, yes. And it also gave me this awareness of how we adults can sometimes be how we were programmed when we were younger, because I witnessed it firsthand. And then I would have to sometimes, pull the parents aside, "Okay, wait a minute, let's let them, they have souls, they really do have souls and their souls are trying to work through something so let's allow that to happen". And that's what went on a lot too.
Meilin Ehlke 45:41
So every student was really really lucky to be with you.
Roger Burnley 45:44
Yeah.
Meilin Ehlke 45:45
Every child, that is what I sense, you gave them really early on permission to be themselves, to find themselves, and through song, through voice, and at the same time you prepared their environment, their surrounding to acknowledge and let it happen.
Roger Burnley 46:06
Right, yes.
Meilin Ehlke 46:08
Wow, so thank you, Rodger. Wow, beautiful soul. And again, you know, and this is the ripple effect that is not to be underestimated. And that's what you were speaking at the beginning about is anything you do, everything I do, everything we do has impact.
Roger Burnley 46:31
Yes.
Meilin Ehlke 46:32
Much farther reaching than we think in that moment.
Roger Burnley 46:37
And when we become consciously aware of that, it becomes even more powerful, because our thoughts will kind of infuse whatever we're doing. And so when we know that what we're doing is possibly going to make some difference to other people, it will. Yeah.
Meilin Ehlke 46:56
So, share a little bit how people can come to you and work with you. You did at the beginning because,
Roger Burnley 47:02
Yes, yes,
Meilin Ehlke 47:04
a lot of the questions that you brought up, that you probably also ask your clients to think about, to experience. I think you are letting people experience questions. That's a whole different way of questioning or bringing a question into being.
Roger Burnley 47:30
Right, because I want them to understand they do have the information. We all do. We just have blocked it off. So if we ask the correct questions or the right questions that will bring that information forth, then we become empowered people, because that's the only thing that I'm discovering and in my program 'Empowerment Made Simple', I say it's a self guide. I want people to understand, I've done this stuff. I'm going through it and I'm still on my path, but because I've developed these things I can give it to other people. You can do the same thing. That's all. And I know that I need to, when I'm doing my course I talk about some of my experiences, because I want people to have proof. I want them to understand that no matter where they are, they can get to the place they want to be, and their past does not define their future.
Meilin Ehlke 48:19
Yes, yes, yes. Good, good, good.
Roger Burnley 48:22
And so that's what I do. So now what I've done is I do talks every month. Free talks where I just want people to come in here some information, and on that they can find me at EmpowerMeRoger.com. I have my listings on there, where people can find the different webinars that I might be holding during the month. And then I have my program which is called Empowering Made Simple. I tell folks this is a chance for you to completely transform your life and give yourself a year to work in this and really do it. One of the things that I found in personal development, spiritual development, whenever it is, is that we have this because of our society, probably the times we grow up in, we want instant results. And I go, that's not sustainable, and it's not durable, when we get things in that manner. So it's like when people win the lottery, they lose it right away because their consciousness has not been adjusted to accept that amount of wealth. You may not have been adjusted yet to accept the amount of brilliance that's within you. And so this program will help you uncover that.
Meilin Ehlke 49:35
Oh, this is beautiful. To experience the vastness. And I think you are a fantastic teacher.
Roger Burnley 49:48
Oh, thank you.
Meilin Ehlke 49:50
So everyone. If you go with Roger, I believe you in really, really great hands. Softness, I mean, the softness, again that I think in the new era that is arising now, softness has a different meaning. You are not a Softie.
Roger Burnley 50:09
Thank you for saying that so much.
Meilin Ehlke 50:11
It's this softness, because if you think about it, Roger, even energy or you know the vibration and the way. We always see it as as fields and in nature they move as a sphere. So it is a softness and it's never a solid. So we're gonna see that differently and we can be so gentle and genuine, soft, whatever other warm. We can change a lot with those things.
Roger Burnley 50:45
I am so glad you brought that up. Because we've moved into an age where we've heard so much more in this month especially, the month of the woman, embodying the female energy which is that nurturing, caring, loving, energies, that's what we're all moving into a bit more. Now, I always doubted that part of me because I always had so much of that in me and I thought, "Oh, this might be really weak. This might be too", and all of that stuff. And so I judged myself and now I thought, "Oh, wait a minute. No, that's your superpower".
Meilin Ehlke 51:23
Uhh.
Roger Burnley 51:24
Yeah. "That's you. So you just didn't know that before, that's all". And I am saying it's the same thing for every single person, they all possess their own superpowers, and we're just uncovering them.
Meilin Ehlke 51:37
Yeah. And you know also, all purpose of these things. They're not so complex, and they're very gentle and also if you know I speak, converse, sing, talk a lot of different languages many even of the star nations. They have a very soft language with loving words, and even there, it is hard for many people to accept...
Roger Burnley 52:06
Yes. Right.
Meilin Ehlke 52:07
... the gentleness in their vocabulary, also in the way it's spoken. Because they don't have so much resistance or density, so they can speak in a different way and so this is something new that is arising, to feel comfortable with it, and to be present to it.
Roger Burnley 52:32
Yes. Great. This is terrific. Thank you so much for this. This is great.
Meilin Ehlke 52:38
Thank you, Roger. Thank you for your time, that you shared your wisdom with everyone on our podcast. And all of your notes and the connecting information I will put into the show notes, everyone. Connect with me, I'll connect you to Roger if anything comes there is nothing separating you from him. And come maybe also into the Facebook group we have, that is called Moving To Oneness, where you can meet each other. Because it's also important to create this community now as Roger also pointed out, where we are here to nudge each other forward. To see in each other how brilliant, we are, so that would be a nice point. And so, have a wonderful time. Say, yes to your gentleness, to your softness, as Roger and I will do more and more, because then our body becomes softer and more gentle, we move more and we are more in the flow, in a dance of life.
Roger Burnley 53:56
Yes.
Meilin Ehlke 53:57
So this is Meilin, your host of the Moving To Oneness show, and I wish you the best. Bye bye and thank you again, Roger, for being here with us all the way from L.A. Bye, bye.