Moving To Oneness

Ep. 158 ~ Guest Chris Nielsen - Being Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky

Episode Summary

Meilin Ehlke and Chris Nielsen explore healing through truth, self-awareness, and past life regression therapy, centered on Chris’s transformative experience with Tchaikovsky’s life and trauma. They also discuss how living authentically can free us from inherited patterns, deepen creativity, and help us support others in becoming more fully themselves.

Episode Notes

What happens when the truth you carry inside has been too intense, too different, or too beautiful to express? In this deeply moving conversation with Chris Nielsen, we explore Tchaikovsky, past-life healing, creativity, cultural conditioning, nature, identity, and the courage to live from the truth of who you are. An intimate journey into what becomes possible when we stop hiding our sensitivity and allow the wisdom, voice and beauty within us to finally enter the world.

(00:03:38) Tchaikovsky’s Soul Journey Through Regression Healing 
(00:10:26) Understanding, Acceptance, Forgiving: Healing the Great Bubble 
(00:24:55) The Place of Life, Not Structure 
(00:28:26) Healing Through Honest Self-Expression and Awareness 
(00:30: 34) Chris's practical advice 
(00:40:50) Tagore’s Emotional School and Yogananda’s Yoga Classes 
(00:51:41) Healing Tchaikovsky Through 100 Hours of Regression 
(00:55:06) Measuring Fear of Abandonment Before and After 
(00:58:14) Tchaikovsky’s Active Past Life Unblocking Deep Answers 
(01:10:10) Global Regression Support and Deeply Nourishing Book

On her website Chris Nielsen has several full chapters from the book 'Being Pyotr Ilyich' available for free for you to download and read: https://chrisnielsenbooks.com/#chapters 

Go to Chris Nielsen her website, if you desire to find out more about her fascinating work, the book, or her podcast: https://chrisnielsenbooks.com

Chris Nielsen on Social Media: 
YouTube: youtube.com/@ChrisNielsenChannel 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chrisnielsen.official
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Episode Transcription

Moving to oneness, Nourishing curiosity, embracing differences, Becoming one.

00:00:38 - Meilin Ehlke
You carry so much beauty within you. And you express it or try to express it in different creative ways. And often you come to a point where you believe you're not good enough or people won't like it. No more. Come and listen to this beautiful, beautiful being that is Sharing her wisdom. Her life experiences has brought in a new way of communicating through her life, her book, her work to support you in expressing the purity that lies within you. 

Hello everyone, I'm Meilin Ehlke, your host of the Moving to Oneness podcast. 

Yes, this woman, she has many different ways to bring through the wisdom of light, purity, truth that she carries and has experienced in many reincarnations. And she's going to share that with you, so stay tuned as it may nudge points within your body or in your history that may bring up tears, but they're healing tears. Then feel inspired what she brings and what she wrote about. 

Hello, dear Chris Nielsen, you're sitting in Romania supporting everyone with your beautiful way of being. You have a, in a way, a healing touch of writing. When I read your book and we will speak about it more. It's about Tchaikovsky and has a little different twist. But you dedicated years of intense personal healing to bring this book out and I want to thank you for it, because it touched me deeply, deeply, deeply. It also inspired me. It brought me to tears and I already had to speak about it and it brought me ideas, what to change, what direction to go into a little bit more in my life and in my profession. So ah, it's fantastic your book, I love it. So share a little bit about what made you to start to write?

00:03:27 - Chris Nielsen
First of all, thank you so much. It's such a joy to meet you and it's such an honor to be part of your great podcast. So thank you so, so much. I'm so grateful to you.

00:03:37 - Meilin Ehlke
Thank you.

00:03:38 - Chris Nielsen
Then speaking about what pushed me to write. About seven years ago on my own path of healing, I discovered this past identity of mine, this past life which was the great and well known composer Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky. And I was of course stunned too. I didn't expect it either. 

But what's essential to say for all the people who are listening to us is that there were two aspects that made me to write this book. The first one was indeed to describe the life of Tchaikovsky, but not in an ordinary way, but from the most intimate position possible, from inside, from within his own soul. 

Because when I addressed this past life of mine through past Life Regression Therapy. So as a part of a healing important process for myself. I discovered this past identity, of course, from the most intimate point of view ever. From within my own soul that lived then and that experience experienced all the things that you may read in the history of music. But I didn't want, of course, to add, to simply add another biography in the history of music. Where there are already so many books written about Tchaikovsky. 
What interested me was to present first of all the human being that he was.

00:05:32 - Meilin Ehlke
Oh, you did that so well.

00:05:34 - Chris Nielsen
Because I said to myself something that I will reveal for the first time now within your interview. That if one day the divine or God, it doesn't matter how we choose to name this unique universal being. If the divine would call me to him and would ask me, "listen, my dear, I give you the chance to continue only one of all the past identities that you ever had, which one you would choose?"
From all the past lives, that I have explored up to this present moment. And there are about 35 past life that I've explored during about 12 years. So not in a few months, about.During about 12 years.

00:06:30 - Meilin Ehlke
Uh.

00:06:31- Chris Nielsen
So in these 12 years, I discovered, of course, a lot of completely different people, different religious, different identities. Some of them were famous. Tchaikovsky is not the only and not the most famous one, but he is certainly the most sensitive and the most profound being that I have ever impersonated. 
00:06:57 - Meilin Ehlke
Yeah.

00:06:58 - Chris Nielsen
And I simply felt that, if you want to put it in a simple way, he deserved to keep on living. Out of my 35 past lives. And I felt that such a sensitive human being deserves to be really known by the others who might be interested in his work from a very intimate point of view. 

00:07:25 - Meilin Ehlke
Yeah.

00:06:26 - Chris Nielsen
Like we are chatting right now, one in front of the other, and we are with our hearts completely opened. We are sharing our feelings and our experiences. So this is what I wanted to do. 
To offer my own sensitivity and my own being and my very intimate heart as Tchaikovsky. To the mankind and to the one, the ones who might be still interested in my life or in my work. 

But second, much more important than speaking about my personality. No matter if we speak about the human being of the artist. What pushed me to write this book were the conversations, the dialogue with the divine that I reproduce exactly in this book. 

Because during a past life regression session, you. You have the moment when you explore the past life with the most important and significant moments. So you navigate through the story of the life itself. 

But then what I think as a therapist, because I'm also a past life regression therapist, what I think it's even more important than seeing the life story itself, is the healing step. In this process of healing, the therapist who is a kind of, let's say, guide for the client, helps you to really understand not only what happened, but why it happened. So all the reasons behind the experiences that you lived. 

So in this part of healing, you understand everything that you lived, the reasons why you chose a certain body, a certain family, a certain country, a certain life mission, a certain profession, why you had to live this or that inner trauma, etc. 
Moreover, you meet the most important characters, let's say, so the most important spirits with whom you share that, that particular life being either positive or negative, let's say interactions, you release all the negative, let's say emotions, anger, fear, etc.

You do a lot of body therapy, you do a lot of reframing, future pacing. So a lot of specific techniques for past life regression therapy that help you to really understand why you had to live through that particular experiences, what you had to learn out of them, how they helped in your evolution as a spirit from a spiritual point of view, so from the higher self, let's say, point of view.

00:10:25 - Meilin Ehlke
Yeah.

00:10:26 - Chris Nielsen
And in the end, you finally managed to integrate all these experiences. Because as I also wrote in the book, and I think I also described this many times in my podcast, Time Traveling. Is that I built up what I call the equation of healing. And I think that the most important steps of healing are first of all, to understand what you lived in order to be able to reach the second step, which is acceptance. After you reach acceptance, you might do the third step, which is forgiving, essential step, otherwise. And then the fourth step, which is healing, finally starts to happen. Because otherwise, when we do face a trauma, even in the current life, doesn't have to be from a past life.

If you don't manage to understand why you can't accept, and then you can't forgive and then you can't heal. So all these four steps are closely linked, one with the other. And so if you would see a person who passed through a trauma without being able to really integrate it, let's say that a person with clairvoyance would see in the astral plane, like a great bubble, a great tumor, let's say outside you, which is the trauma, which was not really integrated, which is somewhere in your field, but outside you. And of course, that in time, un-integrated trauma leads to various emotional and eventually physical diseases.

00:12:21 - Chris Nielsen
So coming back to my book, this part of healing, which happens in what we might call the afterlife or life between lives, this part of healing in which I asked the divine so many questions about my life mission as Tchaikovsky, about my incompatibility between my soul and my body in that life, because I was what we would now call, I think, a transsexual. All the emotional problems that I had, fear of, abandonment, inner child problems, my personal karma and in my family karma, etc. So all the questions that I had to ask to my own healing, in the end gave birth to such great number of divine answers shared with me from above, which answered my own personal questions, but the questions of the mankind too. 

00:13:48 - Meilin Ehlke
Yes.

00:13:49 - Chris Nielsen
Because implicitly, everything that I needed for my own healing, I think that were the most important topics that are discussed nowadays, both in spirituality and in alternative therapies.

00:13:48 - Meilin Ehlke
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:49 - Chris Nielsen
All these problems where we speak about the relationship between the body, the emotions and the mind, about what birth and death really are from a spiritual point of view. About, once again, our life mission, the relationship with our body, karma, the relationship with our family, and everything that develops as energy mechanics, let's say, within a family. Love, impossible love, depression. 

So a lot of problems that all of us might one face are answered in my book because I receive these answers from above. So I reached that moment when I felt that I should share all this wisdom that was given to me for my own healing. So these two aspects pushed me to start this long and difficult journey in order to write this book. So, first of all, to offer Tchaikovsky from this unique, intimate point of view, and then to offer all the important answers that were shared with me by the divine and that I think are valid for any human being.

00:15:13 - Meilin Ehlke
Yes, they are. Everyone, if you're listening, come to the video now. Anyway, you have to take a look at this beautiful woman and also her book cover. Whatever you just spoke about. Chris. I could sense that in the words, your strong internal dedication to bring these points through. You can read it, you can feel it. The light shines through the words. You touch the heart. It's very seldom that the intellect was touched. While I was reading. 

You made me aware, and I think you will, or are making others also aware of their own life. While we read about the life of Tchaikovsky and a little bit about yours. Because you ask these questions or you look at both sides or both lives sometimes of yours. 

I remember the first. I took a lot of notes. Everyone, I don't know, I have to. And the book is full. Because they're phrases that I've mentioned. That I have heard that touched me where you know, they come from source. They are pure. There's a pureness and it just vibrates through you. The frequency of the light. It touches you. An exhale can happen. So that was the inspiring. 

I remember a moment when you wrote about when Tchaikovsky was tiny. I mean, that you even remembered he was lying and seeing the play of light through the leaves and the different colors. He's able or was able to hear the sound of oneness. I say, and it was really frustrating for him. That's what I understood, Chris. That he couldn't express that. That he had to go through life or his childhood, being a teenager, maybe then a youngster before he found music to express it. But at the same time, there was always this fear of expressing what is deep within him. 

Man, so many of us have this, especially if you feel and see and experience what is true. But our cultures don't live that. And I would say it's maybe more a Western culture that has that nowadays. And it saddens me sometimes that these Western cultures spread it through out the world, but luckily it's coming back that so many wisdom cultures survived and they're teaching us again what we once had. 

Yeah. So this, this intensity of experience that I think, Chris, so many have and they don't know what to do with it and are maybe laughed at or shunned at or pushed aside, but they carry all that exists within them and it must be so frustrating. So at the whole time reading your book, I thought about, oh, how can others express this? How can I help express that? 

Because you speak so much about first the dilemma of the inner and outer world. And okay, Tchaikovsky lived 160, 140 years before us now. But do we have still the same cultural restrictions? They're changing as our generation. I'm now end of my 50s. It's different to the younger generations, right. They express themselves differently. They don't follow the rules, the cultural etiquette rules that we lived by. And I think Tchaikovsky, I love that you mentioned it for a moment. The juxtaposition between the American culture of how one lived and the European.

00:19:57 - Chris Nielsen
Yes.

00:19:58 - Meilin Ehlke
I don't know, more aristocratic way of etiquette and then the American etiquette. And because that's a culture, they try to leave or create another standard in life in those times.

00:20:17 - Chris Nielsen
I think this happens nowadays. Probably the difference is not so big as it was 130 years ago, but the difference still exists. I want to share, let's say, maybe an amusing example for many years before starting my path into therapies and alternative medicine and so on. I studied public relations and marketing, applied to the artistic and cultural field, and I worked for lyrical theaters for many years. 

And I attended many international conferences that were organized by Opera Europa, which is the organization that gathers together all the important lyrical theaters in Europe. I was in Munich once, for example, in order to attend.

00:21:21 - Meilin Ehlke
And you were in the school Scala in Milan.

00:21:23 - Chris Nielsen
Yes, yes, yes, in the Scala of Milano.

00:21:24 - Meilin Ehlke
Yeah, you were at the big ones.

00:21:26 - Chris Nielsen
Yes, yes of course. And then one year I received a scholarship in order to attend the first course on Opera management organized in the United States by Opera America. Which is the similar organization in the United States that gathers together of the lyrical theater in the United States. And I went there in Philadelphia and I attended one of their meetings on the artistic field. And I was stunned by the difference between the two. 

So when we were in Europe, it doesn't matter in what country or what city, because it was quite the same anywhere. No matter if you were in Germany, in the United Kingdom, in Italy, in Spain, etc. All the people when the conference started, they were like this, adrett, with a very official and formal position, very polite, very elegant, etc. 

While in the United States, when the conference, which lasted for three or five days, was opened by the president of Opera America, you were like, let's say on Broadway, within a comedy show. So everyone was laughing, the president was doing a lot of jokes. Everything was so funny, so open minded, so flexible. So I was completely stunned by the atmosphere and the difference in the kind of dialogue and communication that was within that conference in America, having in parallel what happened in Europe. So, yes, I think there are still important differences.

00:23:17 - Meilin Ehlke
Yeah, it's important, right? We have your global podcast. You lived in many different countries, you've traveled the world. I have lived in also many different countries. Yeah. Also long time in the US, as I am half American. I invite everyone. If you are uncomfortable of expressing who you are in your culture, travel. Because the world is full of different ways of living. Yeah, I love to see the world myself and experience cultures because it provides so many answers and you spoke so much about the landscape and also about. I don't want to talk too much about the book, but it's a really good book. Tchaikovsky loves nature, but we all know that you can read that everywhere. He expresses it in his music, in his operas. 

Yeah, and the landscape all over the world is different and it provides information to us.
And we all have such a different gene pool that's also important, Chris. Right? So the gene pool, it's not just the gender and that was also fascinating. We'll talk about. But the gene pool reacts differently. Where did your ancestors come from, where they've lived. And because they carry the knowledge or even your language. You're into communication, right? Chris? So many languages were formed by the landscape of this earth, right? The sounds of animals, the wind, so they formed also the languages.

00:24:55 - Meilin Ehlke
And we don't speak enough about this anymore. And he was able to put that into music. And he was also someone who loved to travel. And I love that he had this juxtaposition again between wanting to only be nature, because then we're one with everything, Everything is one with us. We feel home, like we're home, right? 

We're part of everything existing and then having to go then into the people's life, the big cities, St. Petersburg, Moscow, etc. Paris, New York, whatever, where nature wasn't so calm and peaceful and where the people were not so truthful and he could feel the non-truth. 

So especially in our spiritual realms, many of us don't feel the truth spoke, maybe the truth. And we're hurt, especially as younger children speaking the truth. Again it becomes less and less nowadays, maybe we were, you know, stopped a little bit by people. Parents were scared that something would happen to us or they were shunned. So we, we duck it into us.

00:26:14 - Meilin Ehlke
And in throughout this book you have this discussion and how, how can we express and how it hurts if it doesn't come out. And we're now in a cosmic time, you know, 150 years later, let's say, where we invited to bring out really the true essence of ourselves. Why are we here on this Earth and we have to relearn this. Chris. It's not easy because we have these cultural rules that have been set on us and our ancestors and the beings.

00:26:52 - Meilin Ehlke
Maybe some of us have lived, not all of us, right? I think I did regression work and I was always on other stars, never was here on Earth. I remember when we did also rituals where you went backwards in time to find what kind of food you ate in the Ice Age or your first clan or something. You look at the biological mass we carry. I always had blackouts until later then I learned, oh, because it's my first time here and there are many that are here for the first time. So it's also a cultural cosmic shock. Others have been on this Earth over and over and over and experienced that, some less and more than others, but also then letting that shine through.
And we have on this Earth this density which doesn't let this out. And even you Chris, spoke so much about all the interesting relationships, fascinating relationships, and in depth, what each relationship that Tchaikovsky had created within, in him, and what kind of music came out because of it. I think the words and the thought process of Tchaikovsky while he lived. 

00:28:26 - Meilin Ehlke
And then after he speaks from the other side, out of the one mind, the conclusions. And while this has happened and it's so true, so often you feel the truth ring through the words. You just know.  And that gives so much healing. So you experience, or I experience myself, maybe others, when they read or have read the book. You experience your own life in a different time, in a different place, in a different body, right, as a female or male or transgender or whatever. The unending anyway. And then always hearing truth and the purity in the truth and how releasing it is. That is, for me, healing. That is one can expand and the light of us, of each person can shine true even more. And that is wonderful. Thank you. That is the biggest part. I have to thank you for writing this book.

00:29:35 - Chris Nielsen
I'm so grateful to you because you felt it this way, in this deepest, let's say, way. But I want to stay a bit with what you have just said about living in truth. Much longer before writing this book, one of my first teachers, let's say masters, who taught me Reiki and bioenergetical therapies, had this almost obsession of repeating us, his pupils, times and times again.

Try to live in truth. Live in truth. Live in truth. And this is something that I discovered and years later in Tchaikovsky is a very important idea that he had and he repeated too, and that he also, let's say, transmitted to me, because we continue our paths from one life to another much more than we might ever imagine.

00:30:34 - Chris Nielsen
And a very practical advice that I might give to every listener is, that you might pick one day of your life and let's say, put an alarm clock each half an hour and do this experiment each half an hour, the clock rings, you stop it and you ask yourself, why have I done the activities that I have done during the last half an hour? Was this because I really want to do this or that activity? Was this because I saw my mother doing this, and I thought it was important because I saw her doing this or that during my childhood? Was that because my boss asked me to do, but I didn't think that it was the right thing to do, but I did it because my boss made me to do it? Was this because the society pushed me to do, or I really want to do? This or not.

Because if you will start to do this short experiment only one day of your life, you will notice that there are a lot of activities that you are doing without being really conscious about the reason why you are doing them. There are many things you are simply perpetuating and continuing because either you saw someone in your family or of someone closer to you doing them. And you repeat the same pattern because you were educated this way, either because all the people around you, so the society do this thing in this way, but you really never stopped asking yourself if this corresponds to your belief too, or you are simply reproducing this activity on autopilot, because you will be stunned to notice.

00:32:40 - Chris Nielsen
For example, I will take a simple example and then a more complex one. One day I was extremely, but extremely tired, and we were before Easter. And here in Central and also in Eastern Europe, people prepare a lot for religious celebration, for Easter and for Christmas. And they are doing a lot of things in their houses. They are decorating, they are doing a lot of shopping, they are preparing a lot of food, etc.

And I was really, really tired. And then I started to do the vacum cleaning. And then I talked to my husband, we must also wash the windows. And my husband asked me, but why? And I said, because it's Easter, we coming and we must do this and that. And he asked me, why must we do this and that? And I stopped. And I understood that my answer would have been I must do this because my mother and my grandmother did a lot of cleaning in the house, like they were going to sell the house before Easter and before Christmas.

There was a completely madness, like a competition who is cleaning the house, who's house is nicer and cleaner than the other? And I stopped and I understood that, of course, that I didn't have the same approach, and that I thought that the essence of a religious celebration was in what you live, in your heart and in your soul. And that unfortunately, pushing ourselves all the time and trying to do so many shopping, so many sweets, etc.

In the house pushed us to miss the most important spiritual part of the celebration. But I was standing to repeat the same pattern, because this was what I saw in my house during my childhood and during my teens. And this, my husband's questions pushed me to stop from the pattern that I was reproducing and to create in a conscious way, a new way of approaching religious celebrations.

00:34:54 - Meilin Ehlke
Beautiful. Yeah, it's important.

00:34:55 - Chris Nielsen
Yeah, and we are doing this all the time, on a daily basis. There are a lot of things that you are doing because all the people are doing this, because we saw this, etc. But many activities are not really corresponding to our inner truth.

00:35:13 - Meilin Ehlke
Yeah, yeah. This cultural. Yeah. Or for women anyway. Right? The better you clean, the less you think. That's a good one. Where they came from. And you have to be a good housewife and you should. You should do that. So it's a huge cultural issue. And do we do that? 

And then on top of it, I would love to add something is we are all very fine beings. We sense what is around, so we even sense our. Or what our surrounding is doing or our parents have done. And we do it in those moments. And we're not even ourselves. So many of us are mediums, but also physical medians. It's not spoken about. I'm going to. You know, I'm someone. So I'm often someone different. And that came up also while reading your book. Am I now a woman? Sometimes I'm a man. Funny, I just experienced last night I went. A friend of mine has a singing circle here. He brings mantras from around the world and songs. And we sing them. But in one song, suddenly I was singing a deep male voice. So I said, okay, now I'm a man. It was a Native American song. And I thought, ooh, I'm singing him. I really could. It was not just a half a note. It really was a deep. And I said, okay, now he wants to be present. So sometimes we feel different people within our body and it's not spoken about a lot, so. And that creates so much

00:36:57 - Chris Nielsen
frustration.

00:36:58 - Meilin Ehlke
Yeah, frustration and Reibung (friction). So it rubs, right? It rubs within us and we rub against people and we don't speak it out. We are ashamed what we're thinking. And that came through a lot also in your book, Chris. So, yeah, it's important to do these experiences. Not experience, but to observe oneself, become aware. Because awareness is such a great healer. 

00:37:24 - Chris Nielsen
Yes.

00:37:25 - Meilin Ehlke
And the communication. So you're a communicator, Chris. You also are good in communicating how art is represented visually. Right. Because in opera or Broadway musicals, there is a visual act in expressing a story. And in the character, I mean, they're not characters. There were human beings that you delved into. And Tchaikovsky spoke also about what he sensed then and what he didn't. The expression of the truth, the speaking out, how we feel, the misunderstanding. And by the fear of not speaking out because we wonder what others are thinking about us. God, that hurts. 

And so many young people let's say teenagers, early 20s, they do suicide as well. Right? They feel so intense, they are afraid to put the words out. They feel different, they can't speak about. They don't want to be shunned. And it's only because people are afraid or maybe don't understand what they understand. 

But I invite everyone, try to express it, please. It brings healing, it brings freedom. But also if you're an older couple and there's still things that you maybe always held back in your life and to express those that came through. Because with sharing, I got that.. Sharing what you are about. 

I've spoken about this a lot, Chris, on my podcast or in my work. We have to teach also others how we function, how we are. They can't always read us. Yes, some of us, you know, they're clairvoyant. They can see things or no. But many, many people don't. And it is freeing. We can expand if we share and give an other person the opportunity to understand us or me or you on a different level. And that came through because then there is this love, we can sink into for ourselves. Because body shaming was huge also in your book. So I hope a lot will sense that. That's a very big topic at nowadays. Right? Yeah. So you see it was. deep. I found topics that are so present that were that time as they're now. And you brought many answers to these extreme personal topics that need to be looked at in my eyes. So we can have this beautiful human experience that humanity can become free and be less rigid and aggressive. Because this aggressiveness comes from not expressing what we are, what we think or what we want to feel.

00:40:50 - Chris Nielsen
Yes. And I want to add something which I found is extremely important. Meilin in I think everywhere in this world, unfortunately on the whole planet, is that all the educational systems that we had in each country address only the intellect, only a mental development of the human being. 
And I was really stunned to listen. Seven or eight years ago, an American specialist who built up a very nice programs on finding your life mission, who told something very interesting that on this planet almost all of us are emotional illiterate. Because we do get out of such complex schools, high schools, universities, etc. which transform us only in intellectual machines. But we are not educated to express, to become aware of our own feelings. Or to feel the other feelings and energies from an emotional and from an energetic point of view. We are learned almost nothing in schools. 

And I was really very amused. But of course in a very sad way to read two months ago, the famous international bestseller, the Autobiography of a Yogi by Yogananda, which was published 100 years ago, I think. 

00:42:36 - Meilin Ehlke
Yeah, I read it.

00:42:38 - Chris Nielsen
And it's a great book written by this great Indian yogi. And I was really stunned to notice that he discussed this topic taking into account the schools in India. So even in India, my God, he discussed that 60, 70, 80 years ago, the schools were only addressing the children and the teenagers intellect without trying to develop their own gifts, their own talent, without trying to connect them with their own feelings or energies. Nothing about it. And he visited the great Indian poet and writer which was also awarded with a Nobel Prize, which is Tagore. And Tagore with his own money because he was quite a rich person. He was part of an old and rich Indian family, offered his gardens and his house in order to build a private school on this healthy basis, taking into account also the emotional development of a child and the energies and etc. And he proposed Yogananda to add some yoga classes for his children who are studying in his private school. 

And when Yogananda arrived in the United States, he became friends with important persons in the American society at the time. And there was a very rich man in America, he was a businessman. And he asked Yogananda, listen, can't you really bring in the United States a different educational system? Because all our child are really not being served by this educational system which doesn't try to develop their being, they're only accumulating information. That's everything that they are doing. They are training their intellect and their memory. Dot. So I think that's one of the greatest problems of our human society, that our educational systems for years and years tell us that only memorizing history and developing our intellect in order to do mathematics and physics, it's the only important thing in life.

00:45:09 - Meilin Ehlke
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we know where it comes from. But the history, but it's turning, I sense it. One is that us women are learning to recognize what we are more and more and changing the paradigm of how we live and through that how we raise our children. Then if we can be who we are, we as mothers can hold the family different and the children can grow up as something that they are. 

But it's really interesting, I learned with the Koreans energy work, qigong was there a lot. And there were many ways to improve perception, awareness. So very shamanic in a way. And I went even in New York to like an Olympiad and it was fascinating.

The children, they could memorize within seconds visually what was on the screen, they could through touch sense what was milk, apple juice or water. And they could see the colors or symbols in an envelope. And it was much more difficult for us adults practicing this. And a lot of people experienced it then. Yeah. And so they wanted to bring it into the educational systems.

Some were able to do that for a little bit. But when these people then disappear, it cannot be carried by others. And then some were told to stop it, to not bring these little two minute, three minute, five minute exercises in to the classroom, because then others don't know how to act on it. So that's why explaining much more and bringing tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny little changes will create, I think in the big one, the big change, or it is going to just do a bang and.

But you're so right. The whole world is seeking it and we know we cannot be this way anymore. And I think when from all countries, this noise which is starting, that people and children can be who they are. It only can happen if they all do the work you did, Chris, looking at yourself, that's the work I did. And many of these, let's say creative or even an engineer is a creative person. Yeah. It's not. We're all creative.

We source from the source and we can understand it, but we're not being taught how to connect with it. And the biggest frustration, I think in some cultures, tribal cultures, a child is seen for the gift they are the moment they're born. 

That already saddens me thinking about it and experiencing myself. So if the parents don't even know or the family or the bigger family doesn't see what you carry. Yeah. You're never being brought up in the right way. So they're also being taught then what they need to excel in it. But it comes from the whole community. So maybe one day we'll have this more and more. And you can see it. So many people are creating communities in Portugal and Cyprus, in Europe. Many want to live together again.

So. And I think if you have this togetherness and we learn, we have to relearn this. We have been so separated, right. To come together and learn again, to be with each other. And that's what you speak a lot about in your book, how difficult it is to be in truthfulness with each other. If it's a couple as lovers. How many couples are not lovers? I mean true lovers, deep lovers.

Yeah. But they didn't know. I think most of them didn't even know what true love is. So they picked out of something they didn't Even know I would love to change that one day. But that's happening. So. Yeah, so that's what I always concentrate on, that we have this togetherness and where we're seen for what we bring and are supported. And that's what is a global learning at the moment that is happening, I hope. Yeah. So when the.

00:50:08 - Meilin Ehlke
Not everyone really, you explained really well what regression is. So in the book came you were able to tell then after the death of someone that you could ask them also questions, or Tchaikowski could ask them the questions. Because he spoke also and related information through the regression work to you after his death. I mean, from the higher self. And you had this juxtaposition, him living what he experienced while he was on earth, what he brought back from what he learned afterwards after he reviewed his own life. 

And what did it with you in your life learning about this immense gems. I mean, it's a book full of gems, of jewels, of wisdom, of knowledge. And because you also experience it. So it's not like only your intellect you were speaking it. You visceral felt it while you were in regression, but then you also wrote it. So you had many different layers experiencing this truth. What did it to you? I mean, the author, because it's different than maybe some other authors.

00:51:41 - Chris Nielsen
I must underline something very important. I don't really feel that I wrote this book. I feel that I simply transcribed this book. Because when you are doing a regression session, you audio record everything that you are doing. So under the guidance of the therapist, I did a lot of regression sessions for healing this very complex life that was my life as Tchaikovsky. Because people think simply that, wow, it's extraordinary, you are a great composer. It was not extraordinary at all at that moment. It was tragic because it was a lifestyle so intense and so full of traumas and drama, that it took to me a lot of time, much more than for other past lives, in order to really heal, to deeply heal all the traumas that were issued out of this life. 

And so, all in all, I did about 20 regression sessions on this life. Which all in all meant about, let's say 100 hours that were audio recorded when I was under trance, reliving my life as Tchaikovsky and also doing all this healing this specific techniques that you are doing within a regression therapy in order to release emotions, tensions, in order to understand everything that happened, in order to really heal. So I had this 100 hours of regression therapy that I transcribed for months, almost word by word. And I did very light editorial interventions only in order to allow the text to flow. And I put the events in a chronological order because very often within regression therapy, you are not always following the chronological order. You are rather following all the. The moments connected with a specific emotional problem.

00:54:06 - Meilin Ehlke
Yes.

00:54:07 - Chris Nielsen
No matter if that problem repeated, let's say at 20 years, then at 35, then at 55 and so on. So I had all this important material that I transcode described almost word by word because I didn't want to alter its authenticity.

So in this period of time when we speak about artificial intelligence, etc, my book is, I think, one of the most authentic things that you might read because it was, let's say, broadcasted live from Tchaikovsky's own experiences and then from my own dialogues with the divine. So everything was transcribed. This is why I don't really consider myself a writer. It sounds very nice and it's really very, very nice for myself when people are telling me that I'm a writer.

00:55:06 - Chris Nielsen
But to be honest with myself and to live in truth, I didn't ever consider myself a writer. I simply was a person trying to heal her own personal issues. And I want also to underline this important aspect, that if you are really a good and very serious professionist working with past life regressions, you never start a past life regression out of a simple curiosity. You always start because you have a real and important emotional or physical problem. If you are a good therapist.

00:55:45 - Meilin Ehlke
Ah, interesting.

00:55:49 - Chris Nielsen
For example, I studied in the United Kingdom with a past life regression academy founded by Andy Tomlinson, who is a great author and therapist in past lives and life between lives regression. And we were taught that you always start when you have a very clear, important emotional and or physical problem that you address with the client. You do a special meeting which is called the interview, in which you even measure the level of this problem.

00:56:23 - Chris Nielsen
Because afterwards you must notice how much the level of the problem went down. Because you might have a problem with which has one simple root or many routes. And the problem these routes might lead you only to the current life, because you always can do regression only the current life. It's not necessary if the problem is only here. Or it might lead you in a past life or in many past lives. 

So let's say, for example, that you have a fear of abandonment. You might have this fear because in the current life your mother died when you were 10. And this might be the unique problem. If you manage to do simple healing only in this current life and address this issue, everything is more simple, let's say. But you might have this fear of abandonment also nourished by roots, let's say, which come from other past lives. Maybe that in a past life of yours, you were engaged and your lover left to fight in the First World War and he died and he never came back. And this also nourishes your fear of abandonment. So each problem, emotional or physical, that you might have must be identified, measured and then remeasured after the therapy in order to see if it's lowered enough or not. So, I also start my therapy, not out of curiosity, wanting to see who I was in a past life, but because I had very important problems in my either relationship with my child, with my husband and with my own professional path.

00:58:14 - Chris Nielsen
And I found a lot of answers in this past life because it's a very, let's say, karmic, active life. In my current life, we lived a lot of lives in many, as you say, on many planets, in many dimensions, even here on Earth, many times, etc. But not all our past lives or parallel lives, if you want, are equally influencing your own current life. 

00:58:45 - Meilin Ehlke
Yes.

00:58:55 - Chris Nielsen
Some of them are already completely solved. Others influence your life, let's say 50%, other 10%. So not each past life is equally important for you today. For myself, Tchaikovsky was very active, let's say, so he influenced my current life in a very important proportion.

This is why I found so many answers and I have. I had so many blockages from this specific past life. But once again, being famous or not is completely irrelevant for a spirit. So I was not. My past life as Tchaikovsky was not more or less important for me because I was a public figure. Everything was connected with my own personal life as a human being of course.

00:59:41 - Meilin Ehlke
That's why you wanted to express it. And this story was also nudging you ready. That's what the push was because you had a very strong connection, let's say connection. You were a healer, right? We bring it out. And everyone. We're born as healers. If you are healer, your whole body shares it. That's so important. 

And so you Chris, had to experience this. And through your experience, through finding out more about yourself, you found out more about Tchaikovsky. And you knew deep inside it's a gem for many other beings.

01:00:33 - Chris Nielsen
You put it wonderfully. Yes, exactly. This is what happened. Yes.

01:00:39 - Meilin Ehlke
Thank you for doing this.

01:00:41 - Chris Nielsen
Thank you so much.

01:00:42 - Meilin Ehlke
It is really, really important, this book. Again, I think there's so many people have lost when they were young because they could not live this struggle. But if you read. We don't have enough books about this. It Comes so different. Because it's not that there are not enough books about this struggle of life or the way of life, but something in this, inn your book, Chris, it is beautiful. There is. Let's stay with the gems. It's crystal. So we have crystal DNA within us. And you carry a lot of crystalline structures within yourself. And so that was maybe a reason why it was so easy for you to bring it out into this world.

01:01:38 - Meilin Ehlke
And the words, the sentences, the parts that came out of you that you looked at and because they were then transcribed and I'm able to read them, are rather timely and important in our human experience on this beautiful earth. So that is the other part. And so it's important that many people, I think, read it now to get the answers. Deep with that they have tucked deep, deeply, deeply inside of them. 

Because I also listened to the music here and there. Again, first of all, when it was mentioned, when he wrote what. So just to familiarize myself. Again, so touching. And also, why did this kind of music survive? This question, you know, probably much more about than I do. But for me, I think because it has this ring of purity. Even Tchaikovsky spoke a lot about Mozart. It touches something deeply within ourselves. And then there are many more artists, but they create from that place of life, not of structure, not of technical issues, not of how music should be written, but they go beyond.

There comes something that inspired me and brought me also on my path. I would love to share this with you, Chris, and everyone. When I lived in Atlanta and I drove with my mom, I remember that moment precisely to Atlanta. I lived in Athens. We drove an hour and a half to go to the museum, the Modern Art museum, and we listened to a show the Infinite Mind was called. And on that day he talked about Schumann and yeah, no, you're German and American. Suddenly there's a German name being mentioned. So you listen more closely. And it was about him writing and being mal-depressive, I think that's the English word. So he had. And I don't even think that they were really depressed. They just put all of their life energy into writing so that they could write something for the future, which also Tchaikovsky did, in my eyes.

So he wrote for the future. And then you have the critics of the time. I mean, this also happened to artists, the whole Impressionist, right. Only Americans bought Impressionism because that's why their museums are full and not the Europeans, because the people didn't like it. The critics didn't like it. They shunned it. And so there was the same with new music that was going to be important for the future or played with the status quo. And I always had to think I said maybe he wasn't really, but he was then just so down because people don't understand and you can be so frustrated and sad you don't want even talk to someone.

So it. It meant it can be a housewife feeling this way. It can be any person and especially the youth is not if it's not seen with their brand new ideas. Luckily Goethe wrote about Sturm and Dang right where they go out into the world and create and they don't care. So maybe what also your book brings is that we don't care about others. So much came through over because that's very painful.

And can we create a society where we really don't shun other people that are different like us? So this is something I'm personally going to look at more and more now, Chris, because of your book. Again, it really brought that out in me. What can I give as Meilin to the world? Can I support people in feeling okay with that purity within them so that they can stand more sovereign in life and become less pushed down by the surrounding? And can we educate, let's say the surrounding so each being can be more who they are and what they are and bring this beauty to this place, planet that we're all desiring? Yeah, so that came a little through the last days while I was reading your book.

And I'm going to do this more and more. I don't know all of it right now, but it really. I don't know it. It was like. And the other topic is not important. It's like this is the big humanity question that each person carries. And that's I think why I love your book so much. I'm going to show it more precisely. He's a gorgeous guy too. And never he saw his beauty that he is right. We didn't even talk about body, how to perceive your body. But it's the same especially for all us women, for teenagers, youngsters. So if you have young people in the audience, if you're out there, please hand them this book and just let them read it.

Don't explain too much what it's all about. If you're in middle age trying to figure out what is your next step, what you've been doing until now wasn't right. Or if you're older and you say there's more to life I've lived what can I create for my next few decades. Read this book and it will ignite all of your cells, all of your memory. It will catapult you back to source and then back forward into your future.

01:08:04 - Meilin Ehlke
This is again, a fascinating book that touches your cells, your body, your mind, your intellect and your heart. And Chris, we can have conversations for hours and hours and hours, 

01:08:23 - Chris Nielsen
I'm sure. 

01:08:04 - Meilin Ehlke
and we will have them. Thank you for writing this. Thank you for exposing yourself. This is a huge. Because it's different. You also are being probably shunned at or criticized, 

01:08:42 - Chris Nielsen
Of course.

01:08:45 - Meilin Ehlke
but still you did it. But still you did it. And that light in you is so bright. So it always. And I think it's less and less that people can push you down and you're keeping on expanding. So thank you for enduring this, probably your husband, your family, for enduring the surrounding communities, but also for everyone who helped you on your path. I thank all of them that encouraged you to bring this book into flourish. And it's so nourishing. And you as a being are so nourishing. I think you still have a lot to do and you are going to create so many beautiful things. And this is just the start, because you said yes to yourself and you said yes to the important thing you're bringing to this earth for all of us. Chris, God, thanks.

01:09:55 - Chris Nielsen
I want to say a big thank you to you. I'm so grateful to you. You are such a great person. And thank you for seeing my book. For seeing my book the way that you managed to perceive it. Thank you so much.

01:10:10 - Meilin Ehlke
Yes. So everyone again, go read it and share with us both how you felt, what it brought out within you. Everyone who is interested in regression work now, Chris is fantastic in it and it doesn't matter where you are in the world, she'll be able to support you. 

And yeah, I wish you all the best that your music that is in you comes out into the world, your creativity, and that you're able to be one with this one sound, that nature, the world, the cosmos carries you in. 

Goodbye, everyone. I'm Meilin and I thank Chris so much for writing this book and all the best for your path in front of you and keep on lightening it up so brightly. 

01:11:14 - Chris Nielsen
Thank you so much.

01:11:14 - Meilin Ehlke
This is Meilin, your host of the Moving to Oneness podcast. Goodbye, everyone.